I’m an experienced rider who has tried many different brands of shorts over the years. Assos, Pearl Izumi, Gore, Castelli, Champion, Pactimo to name a few. These Primal shorts are my favorites. For now I own two pair (will buy more) and I’ve worn and washed them five or six times. They are extremely comfortable, the seams leave no marks on my legs, The chamois is a bit thicker than I’m used to but I’ve adapted to it well. Bottom line the shorts are a steal for the sale price of $100. I thought I might be between sizes but I went with a small and I’m very happy with the fit. I’m 5’ 5”” 144 lbs.